Subject	All claims were based on EAGLE'S own claims from their staff
Posted by	samsungZ [Houston] on March 05, 2012 at 2:56 PM
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In Reply To	The members were disputing the unsubstantianted claims posted by BigTDogg (MA) on March 05, 2012 at 10:15 AM
Message	...... The manufacturer claims 200HP/per cylinder. Also, SZ's drag car has been around for how long, and how many miles, and @ 800+rwhp for how long now and never had its eagles, stretch, bend, crack or fly out the block right? If I recall correctly as well, I think the Z where a 4digit dyno post was made by Greg a while back also had eagle rod's @ 1007rwhp or somewhere close to that... At the end of the day, each person needs to figure out which part they wanna use for their own power goals.. Some use eagle, others chose other brand names. Any rod, whether eagle , pauter, Carrillo, etc.. When subjected to the right conditions can fail, plain and simple. No rod is stretch or bend proof. For well over 95% of the Z's out there on the road who do a rebuild of some sorts; eagles will be fine as a economical option for most sub 1000rwhp builds. Not very many people in the Z world have ventured into the 1000+rwhp levels.. Much less monitored long term @ those levels to truly know how good or bad they are for reliability claims.. As our community continues to truck along and approach the 1000+whp range where allot of other popular platforms are having success.. We'll all see the limits of many parts we commonly use in the pursuit of 4digit rwhp... Not just rod's. I for 1 selected my parts and machine shop, based on my aggressive goals...I have eagles, and I will push them till if and when they fail on my 800+rwhp capable setup... If they do, no biggie, all it will do is expedite me redo-ing my current setup, for the next 1 I have been planning for over a year now that's on the drawing board.. So it would be a win win for me... As I am already getting board with my current, and craving for the next.. Lol.. ~Mario D. -------------------------------------------------------------------- My current favorite TT.net member quotes: Nice, it's all fun and games until the turbos kick in :) (n/m) - Chickan 14:13:32 02/03/12 -------------------------------------------------------------------- My Siggy: "I don't know about yours, but my Z is a pus*y magnet :-P"
Follow Ups	700-800+ whp - blackomega 09:35:55 03/05/12 race gas vs pump gas (n/m) - twin3037 09:58:02 03/05/12 Re: 700-800+ whp - DbestiZ1 09:59:43 03/05/12 I already spent the 15k... - blackomega 10:04:58 03/05/12 Also looking at your profile you have already spent a good - DbestiZ1 10:12:47 03/05/12 I would not attempt such power on eagle rods - SimaYi 10:05:44 03/05/12 I remember a vague posting as well that was also disputed - blackomega 10:11:53 03/05/12 The members were disputing the unsubstantianted claims - BigTDogg (MA) 10:15:22 03/05/12 Is that what you call harry / ztuner? (n/m) - blackomega 10:17:28 03/05/12 I thought he was referring to samsungZ? (n/m) - Aqualung 10:23:58 03/05/12 maybe - blackomega 10:27:26 03/05/12 The way I see it... - Aqualung 16:06:22 03/05/12 IIRC, Harry was agreeing with Don in saying that Eagle rods - BigTDogg (MA) 10:36:16 03/05/12 Harry speaks a couple posts down from your link... - blackomega 11:16:08 03/05/12 Not breaking the bank <--------------------> 800RWHP (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 12:31:32 03/05/12 i know... - blackomega 12:36:05 03/05/12 i don't think there is, Matt, even the pauters are expensive (n/m) - vulcanrush 12:37:41 03/05/12 There is not. Go with Carillo Super A-Beam or Crower. - MixManMash 12:56:41 03/05/12 IPP has a good price on Carillo Super As (n/m) - blackomega 11:27:19 03/06/12 Did anyone happen to post pics of those streched rods? - John@Z1 14:29:35 03/05/12 BIG 2nd. (n/m) - samsungZ [Houston] 15:34:08 03/05/12 Pay me and i will show you. (n/m) - ztunerz 22:04:37 03/05/12 How about you show me 10 thousands of an inch diff - ztunerz 22:03:14 03/05/12 LOL, love the last sentence. (n/m) - John@Z1 11:22:22 03/06/12 All claims were based on EAGLE'S own claims from their staff - samsungZ [Houston] 14:56:45 03/05/12 Combustion is a compressive load on the rod - aliaZ 17:54:45 03/05/12 Agreed, and the same applies for all rods - samsungZ [Houston] 19:42:41 03/05/12 No kidding (n/m) - ztunerz 22:08:11 03/05/12 Re: I remember a vague posting as well that was also disputed - SimaYi 10:15:43 03/05/12 anyone using the SARD 850cc side feed injectors? - blackomega 12:34:41 03/05/12 imo, if not nismo740cc's, i'd use bde's fuel system - vulcanrush 12:39:19 03/05/12 1,000 HP? That is a top-feed-specific order - CoHPhasor 12:59:02 03/05/12 right, bde top-feed (n/m) - vulcanrush 13:07:20 03/05/12 my goals are <900whp over the next few years - blackomega 13:10:02 03/05/12 no more than 775 (n/m) - ztunerz 14:38:37 03/05/12 whp? (n/m) - blackomega 15:39:06 03/05/12 If that, i was running about 90 % IDC at around 700 whp - ztunerz 22:06:44 03/05/12 no way around it... - blackomega 08:46:26 03/06/12 simple - rod bearing width, not enough of it, not much you - ztunerz 14:36:38 03/05/12 Re: simple - rod bearing width, not enough of it, not much you - Tech@EPR 15:54:48 03/05/12 Nascar uses the H22 Honda bearing, which is wider - aliaZ 18:38:12 03/05/12 Re: Nascar uses the H22 Honda bearing, which is wider - Tech@EPR 20:38:21 03/05/12 real race cars also run dry sumps whereas most street cars - aliaZ 23:06:23 03/05/12 Re: real race cars also run dry sumps whereas most street cars - Tech@EPR 00:13:46 03/06/12 who has done this before? - Antihero 23:43:00 03/05/12 Done what before? The H22 bearing in a Z? - aliaZ 05:27:31 03/06/12 thanks for the education - vulcanrush 10:25:42 03/06/12 there really isn't a viable alternative. - aliaZ 21:29:00 03/06/12 no wider bearings of any sort in a vg30 - Antihero 10:38:42 03/06/12 the only bearing I'm aware of is the L28 bearing - aliaZ 11:42:00 03/06/12 ever know anyone do suffer crank failure after? - Antihero 13:15:54 03/06/12 The crank isn't bullet proof - aliaZ 19:49:50 03/06/12 Expect more from you Mitch >>> - ztunerz 21:54:41 03/05/12 Re: Expect more from you Mitch >>> - Tech@EPR 02:58:56 03/06/12 It would be amusing to see your customers face when - ztunerz 08:30:56 03/06/12 Harry why are you murdering in the morning (n/m) - ZiNnYc 09:05:11 03/06/12 just grouchy - the internet seems to do that to me - ztunerz 15:08:02 03/06/12 Re: It would be amusing to see your customers face when - Tech@EPR 12:52:08 03/06/12 nevermind Mitch, its a waste of time - you are correct (n/m) - ztunerz 15:02:40 03/06/12 What kind of pie?? (n/m) - SactoTodd 18:07:49 03/06/12 hair pie? (n/m) - aliaZ 19:25:01 03/06/12 I guess I'll see 700-800+ whp - nmgoodthing 14:53:43 03/05/12 +1 on the corn juice.. I run it full time now... - samsungZ [Houston] 14:59:16 03/05/12 If you want 700+ HP with E85 you need more than 1000cc - CoHPhasor 16:25:46 03/05/12 Re: If you want 700+ HP with E85 you need more than 1000cc - nmgoodthing 16:55:00 03/05/12 Sorry, didn't realize the 1600's were discontinued. - CoHPhasor 18:30:34 03/05/12 700+ HP on E85 you need more than 1000cc at 43.5psi - induetime 21:53:13 03/05/12 I certainly don't run in that hp range but I'd assume.... - arrowenterprises 15:23:57 03/05/12 I'm well aware. - blackomega 15:40:49 03/05/12 Re: I'm well aware. - MikeC(NZ) 04:18:46 03/07/12 Really I am not after a 1000 hp street car or race car - blackomega 08:27:20 03/07/12
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